<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Mike,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Tony helped me pin it down. For the record it was just a progress indicator IE in an ALERT message - no other info. Essentially it was just early media with the SIT and dc'd number msg. </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>-MC<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Michael Jerris <<a href="mailto:mike@jerris.com">mike@jerris.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>I do recall seeing a few times alerting with cause ie in it. Do you see that in this case?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Mike<br><br>On Jun 2, 2008, at 6:54 PM, "Michael Collins" <<a href="mailto:mcollins@fcnetwork.com"><a href="mailto:mcollins@fcnetwork.com">mcollins@fcnetwork.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thanks, that’s what I was doing
wrong on the originate API – I was copying and pasting into the CLI from
a notepad session and I forgot that I was setting ignore_early_media=true. It
works the way I would expect it to.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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MC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org"><a href="mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org">freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org</a></a>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 02, 2008 3:26
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] OZ
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">when you say
ignore_early_media=true you are instructing originate to not return
sooner. When you omit that option it will return as soon as the alerting
is received.<br>
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<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy">Note, that was supposed to say: the only reason I can't do
tone detect…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 02, 2008 2:59
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] OZ
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<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy">Anthony,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy">Of course, you are correct. They are retarded, and they
are sending progress inband. The only reason I can do tone detect or
anything like it is because the originate app doesn't finish until the channel
goes from PROGRESS to UP. About the only thing I can think of is to have
OZ take an ALERT message with progress IE containing the "I'm a retard,
here's inband messaging" info and have that move the channel state to UP.
Or if there's another way for the originate app (or bridge app, depending
on whether I'm using API or not) not to get snagged on this particular scenario
then I'm all ears.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy">I'll keep looking for other goofy cases like this. The
application that I'm looking at right now is essentially a "disconnected
number verifier" program. I'm trying to write an auto dialer that
gets fed a list of phone numbers that we're pretty sure are disconnected and
does its best to verify that fact. Of course, when the friggin' telco
sends inband progress instead of a q931 message indicating an issue then we've
got to play these silly games.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy">Let me know what you think about the ALERT + PROGRESS inband
= OZ channel up.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy">-MC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy">P.S. – when dialing out via a VoIP carrier, what kinds
of things happen when a disconnected number is called? Does the VoIP
carrier also have to deal with the retardation from the telcos? If so,
how well does it work? Just curious if a SIP account would be good for
this kind of application…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Freeswitch-users] OZ
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">they are sending inband progress like retards.<br>
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they are sending progress with media then playing sit instead of appropriate
ISDN message.<br>
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on trick you can do is try adding tone_detect app like some of the fax examples
but for one of the 3 sit frequencies and transfer that call to hangup.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Mon,
Jun 2, 2008 at 3:44 PM, <st1:personname w:st="on">Michael Collins</st1:personname>
<<a href="mailto:mcollins@fcnetwork.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:mcollins@fcnetwork.com"><a href="mailto:mcollins@fcnetwork.com">mcollins@fcnetwork.com</a></a>>
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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Guys,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I
don't know if this is "normal" or not so I'm hoping you can help me
figure out what's up. I've got a disconnected number that I call on a PRI
and the sequence goes like this:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Dial
number, hear ring back, see PROGRESS from telco, hear SIT and "you've
reached a DC'd number…", then hear fast busy for 30 seconds (or so),
then receive from telco that the call state is up, and then 3 seconds later
call is terminated. I've PB'd the complete log here: <a href="http://pastebin.freeswitch.org/4549" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://pastebin.freeswitch.org/4549"><a href="http://pastebin.freeswitch.org/4549">http://pastebin.freeswitch.org/4549</a></a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">FYI,
I tried it with both with and without ignore_early_media. When ignoring
early media I just get 60 seconds of FS internal ringback tone then I hear that
the call failed. When not ignoring early media is when I get the SIT
tone, etc. and that's also what is in pb 4549.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Any
thoughts on how to handle a call like this? FS doesn't consider the call
"connected" because telco sends us PROGRESS_MEDIA but doesn't
actually say that the call is "up" – at least as far as I can
tell.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Thanks,<br>
Michael</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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