[Freeswitch-users] Security vs compatibility / NAT etc

Sat Jul 2 23:08:40 MSD 2016

Thanks Colin, really appreciate the help!

So should the SIP_DOMAIN in kamctlrc be the IP of the kamailio server… or the FS server?

And should the handset be set to use the FS public IP as the SIP server, and the kamailio server as the proxy?

And should there be something else listed as the @ realm in the register name?!

I am determined to get my head around proxying!

> On 2 Jul 2016, at 19:35, Colin Morelli <colin.morelli at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Rick,
> 
> FS has four variables you'll need to be concerned with. sip-ip, rtp-ip, ext-sip-ip, and ext-rtp-ip.
> 
> The sip/rtp-ip variables tell Freeswitch which IP address it should bind to for SIP and RTP traffic, respectively. The ext-*-ip variables tell Freeswitch what IP addresses it should advertise that it listens to, for SIP and RTP, respectively. In cases where FS is behind a NAT of some type, these may be different. If your public IP is directly attached to an interface on the FS box, they may very well be the same.
> 
> In your case, you likely want sip-ip and ext-sip-ip set to the private IP address for the FS instances. Similarly, you want rtp-ip and ext-rtp-ip set to the public IP address for the FS instance. (I believe if you don't set ext-*-ip variables at all they just default to the same as their non-ext counterparts).
> 
> With this configuration, FS will listen to SIP traffic over the private interface (from your Kamailio proxy). When it needs to construct 200 OKs or INVITEs, it will advertise itself as listening to media on its own public interface (the value of the rtp-ip variable).
> 
> As far as not seeing anything in syslog for the registration, Kamailio is fairly light on logging by default (unless you set debug=4), and the script that you referenced doesn't contain any xlog statements so you probably won't see anything. I'd instrument the script with xlog() calls throughout and see if it gets you anything. When in doubt you can always tcpdump as well to see if you're getting the requests/responses you hope to get.
> 
> Best,
> Colin
> 
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 2:29 PM Rick Jarvis <rick.jarvis at magicmail.mooo.com <mailto:rick.jarvis at magicmail.mooo.com>> wrote:
> Ok, so first step is to get Kamailio working as a proxy. TLS will come in time….
> 
> I’ve used this config file https://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Kamailio_basic_setup_as_proxy_for_FreeSWITCH <https://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Kamailio_basic_setup_as_proxy_for_FreeSWITCH>
> Kamailio server and FS server both have public and private interfaces
> Kamailio server is listening on its public IP
> FS is listening (profile internal) on its private IP
> Kamailio is set to rewrite to FS server’s private IP
> 
> What I don’t quite get, having not used a proxy in this way before, is what happens next. If FS needs to advertise its public IPs for the RTP, how does this happen?
> 
> So far I’m not seeing anything at all in Syslog for the incoming registration.
> 
> Any help appreciated!
> 
> 
>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 14:39, Colin Morelli <colin.morelli at gmail.com <mailto:colin.morelli at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Rick,
>> 
>> (Sorry for the long email, hopefully it's helpful)
>> 
>> It sounds like you're mostly concerned with FS initiating calls to handsets behind NAT, is that correct?
>> 
>> If so, what you probably want is SIP outbound (RFC 5626). It's the best way to avoid NAT issues with clients. Under this model, clients keep a persistent connection open to the server. The server is responsible for using that connection to deliver INVITEs to the client, thus avoiding the need to ever open its own connection.
>> 
>> In my (relatively limited) experience with FS, it was able to act like a SIP outbound server, but it doesn't directly advertise it and supporting SIP outbound is really outside of the core scope of what FS does. So, in my setup, I use Kamailio to provide the SIP outbound support. A brief description of my setup (which seems to work fine with clients behind NAT)
>> 
>> Kamailio edge proxy cluster (provides SIP outbound support to clients, allows public SIP traffic)
>> Kamailio proxy + registrar (only allows SIP traffic from inside the local network, provides registration support)
>> Freeswitch (only allows SIP traffic from inside the local network, has a public IP address and open firewall for RTP traffic).
>> 
>> So, a registration from a client hits the Kamailio edge proxy, which parks the socket connection and sends it on to the second Kamailio proxy/registrar. When FS needs to make outbound calls to clients, it hits the Kamailio proxy/registrar, which forwards it to the edge proxy that has an existing connection the client and uses it to deliver the invite (this is all handled by Kamailio with it's outbound, path, registrar, and usrloc modules).
>> 
>> Note your setup might not require the use of two layers of proxies before FS. In my case, I keep registrations off of FS so it's only handling calls. If you have registrations in FS, you can likely just have a Kamailio edge proxy for advertising SIP outbound support, and have it proxy all traffic into FS.
>> 
>> With this setup, FS will receive SIP traffic from Kamailio, and advertise (in the SDP) its public IP address for RTP media (which needs to be allowed through the firewall). Freeswitch will then open what it refers to as an auto-adjust window for the RTP media. In other words, FS will assume that the first address/port to send RTP media to the RTP port configured for a call is the remote client for that call. As a result, FS is able to cope with clients behind NAT on the media side as well. I believe this feature is enabled by default, but you may have to enable it - you'd have to check the docs on this one.
>> 
>> With those two pieces combined you should be able to get past any NAT issues without the need for STUN/TURN. Unless you bypass media on FS, in which case you're going to need those.
>> 
>> Hopefully that helps you out a bit.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Colin
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 8:52 AM Rick Jarvis <rick.jarvis at magicmail.mooo.com <mailto:rick.jarvis at magicmail.mooo.com>> wrote:
>> I’d be interested to hear what different people use to provide some level of security for remote end-users such as homeworkers, and to get round NAT issues.
>> 
>> We currently use OpenVPN, as this is built into the firmware of Yealink handsets (it’s a great feature, I’m not sure why more handset manufacturers don’t do this?!). The pros are that not only is it secure, but it also removes any problems with NAT for the RTP streams.
>> 
>> The downsides are that it is complicated (and downright frustrating sometimes) to set up, and there are additional things to consider such as the server configuration and overheads.
>> 
>> TLS/SSL with SRTP is another option, but my understanding of this is that it can cause NAT problems, with FreeSWITCH trying to initiate control channels back to the phone for inbound calls. In fact, I’ve always had problems with getting phones to work when behind NAT anyway, even without SSL/TLS. STUN can be used to ascertain the IP, but how do you handle situations where multiple handsets are behind NAT - you can’t open all RTP ports to all handsets at once?!!
>> 
>> Would be very interested to hear thoughts and methods on these points.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> R
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