[Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH version 1.4.x end of life - recommendation please

Fri Nov 20 01:31:25 MSK 2015

On Thursday, November 19, 2015, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz <
luis.daniel.lucio at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think this is a big misunderstanding
>
> Brian is right by saying the hard work is done.
>
> But the position the FreeSWITCH project has taken about pushing Debian is
> a killer for the project.
>
> It is very common that the favor becomes obligation. Specially for those
> who doesn't understand the open source thinking. But no one can push any
> one to do things.
>

I do not appreciate the FUD.   You clearly take for granted the burden of
managing a project.  Try to be more considerate.

If you know how to compile code, you can check out git master and go find
the tarballs of every dependancy and build, install or make packages of it
and it will work.
Our packages are a luxury designed to be used by community members who do
not wish to take on the task themselves.  If you do not like them, don't
use them.

If you want to make CentOS work the same as Debian, you simply have to
manually update all the depends to match the exact versions we use and deal
with the cascading dependency yourself.
Once you are done, it will not be CentOS anymore because of all the
modifications.  The are behind on libraries because the longer time moves
on the harder it is to update all the packages on the distro.
We only have resources for one permutation of this nightmare and with
Debian we only have to deal with 2% of the problems CentOS currently has.
If CentOS finally decides to catch up, you will have an easier time getting
things to work but that time is not now.

> Le 19 nov. 2015 12:21 PM, "Brian West" <brian at freeswitch.org> a écrit :
>
>> You're highlighting why we have an open source community, its where the
>> community steps up, helps figure this out and contributes the solution to
>> the problem for all to benefit from, Its the least anyone could do thats
>> running FreeSWITCH as the hardest part is already done for you for free! :)
>>
>> /b
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 5:41 AM, Olgierd Ziolko <lists.fs-users at uce.pw>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi*
>>>
>>> But when it's cross-checked against inventory or network drawings he's
>>> going to be busted (and put in much worse position).
>>>
>>> Personally I find CentOS 7 waaaaaay too edgy for corporate requirements
>>> - we (as in my company) are running servers on specific OS version (inc.
>>> 6.5, but not 7), custom subset of software, sometimes with custom patches,
>>> customised (a whole lot) kernel, so I just can't afford throwing it all out
>>> the window just for the sake of using most recent packaged version (and
>>> when we're at packages: Debian's packaging is horrendous, how can't such
>>> simply systemd service file problem unresolved for months?).
>>>
>>> So I'm very on the Andrew's (the first) side.
>>>
>>> * hello everyone, I'm kind of fresh FreeSWITCH user and I'll try my best
>>> to contribute to the community (because I've already got so much). Thank
>>> you all.
>>>
>>> On 19 November 2015 at 10:29, Andrew Cassidy <
>>> andrew at cassidywebservices.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can pass PCI-DSS with proper firewall rules. For example, if you FS
>>>> server only needs to accept calls from certain IP addresses, firewalling it
>>>> out will pass the automated tests easily.
>>>>
>>>> I know it's not ideal, but I've managed to make unpatched Windows 2003
>>>> servers pass the automated tests just by hiding them behind a proxy.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not condoning this practise, just timelines on that particular
>>>> project required that they pass until we could upgrade them to Windows
>>>> 2012. It bought us the time we needed
>>>>
>>>> On 19 November 2015 at 08:21, Andrew Keil <andrew.keil at visytel.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org [mailto:
>>>>> freeswitch-users-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael
>>>>> Jerris
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 19 November 2015 11:12 AM
>>>>> *To:* FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH version 1.4.x end of
>>>>> life - recommendation please
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Andrew Keil <andrew.keil at visytel.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To FreeSWITCH users,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In order for my client to plan for FreeSWITCH version 1.4.x end of
>>>>> life, I have a few questions that I hope the FreeSWITCH team can help
>>>>> answer:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1)      Since the FreeSWITCH version 1.4.x branch is going end of
>>>>> life in early 2016, then obviously I need my client to migrate to the
>>>>> FreeSWITCH version 1.6.x branch ASAP.  Is there a definite date when the
>>>>> FreeSWITCH version 1.4.x branch is going end of life?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't have a specific date set, we will provide as many critical
>>>>> and security fixes as we can for it for a while.  That being said, we are
>>>>> already at the point where significant portions of fixes are not possible
>>>>> to back-port due to significant changes in the code between 1.4 and 1.6.
>>>>> This continues to get worse over time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2)      Regarding the FreeSWITCH version 1.6.x branch:
>>>>>
>>>>> a.       Can this run on CentOS 6.x (ie. the latest release of CentOS
>>>>> 6)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have made minimal effort to try to package dependencies for it, and
>>>>> it was abandoned as it was determined to be too much work.  Its probably
>>>>> possible, but expect to:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Not have any support for video features.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Spend significant time working on packaging your own dependencies
>>>>> and testing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                                                                i.
>>>>>  I understand that CentOS 7 is recommended, however upgrading the OS
>>>>> is a much bigger task than simply upgrading FreeSWITCH.  Especially since
>>>>> my client is also PCI compliant to enable credit card processing, which
>>>>> requires rigorous Operating System lockdown.  Currently my client will not
>>>>> be using the video features inside FreeSWITCH (ie. initially only using the
>>>>> feature set inside the FreeSWITCH version 1.4.x branch).
>>>>>
>>>>>                                                              ii.      Is
>>>>> there anything I should be aware of when trying to get FreeSWITCH version
>>>>> 1.6.x branch working on CentOS 6?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have done zero testing on it.  You will have to do all the
>>>>> dependency packaging back-porting for the deps you need and do testing and
>>>>> let us know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate any feedback that you are able to provide to make this
>>>>> process as painless as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
>>
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