[Freeswitch-users] Problem with rtp streams and stair-stepped (or ramped) increased lag

Wed Jun 26 04:35:42 MSD 2013

What are you using to analyze the rtp streams? Wireshark? or voipmonitor?

William King
Senior Engineer
Quentus Technologies, INC
1037 NE 65th St Suite 273
Seattle, WA 98115
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william.king at quentustech.com

On 06/25/2013 05:19 PM, Nathan Neulinger wrote:
> Very interesting... look forward to seeing the comparison of those two
> captures... I'm in the process of trying to rule out vmware as a
> contributing factor by moving the FS servers to dedicated hardware, but
> your description sounds like there may be some other issue in addition.
> 
> In my case, it's all confined within local network, so there shouldn't
> be much of any latency spikes, at least not significant ones.
> 
> Looking at the graphs of a few calls today, on at least one of the
> not-so-bad ones, I saw a very periodic blip on the stairstep every 60
> seconds. That doesn't cover the large drift ones in the graphs I posted
> though.
> 
> -- Nathan
> 
> On 06/25/2013 06:48 PM, William King wrote:
>> Nathan,
>>
>> I had a chance to diagnose the issue live on a system today. While I'm
>> not yet sure we are hitting the same issue, I'm now confident the
>> problem I'm hitting is not FS related, but looks to be kernel related. I
>> was able to get multiple calls up all with large 5+ second delays.
>> Restarting the calls did nothing to clear the problem. Restarting
>> Freeswitch repeatedly also had no effect. Upon restarting the box, the
>> problem was gone.
>>
>> Also in my diagnostics I've found that it isn't all UDP packets that are
>> effected. I now have a switch mirroring the port and a pcap running
>> locally on the machine. I'll see tomorrow if it's just a matter of an
>> inbound or outbound network stack buffer(or network stack priority)
>> issue.
>>
>> William King
>> Senior Engineer
>> Quentus Technologies, INC
>> 1037 NE 65th St Suite 273
>> Seattle, WA 98115
>> Main:   (877) 211-9337
>> Office: (206) 388-4772
>> Cell:   (253) 686-5518
>> william.king at quentustech.com
>>
>> On 06/25/2013 05:13 AM, Nathan Neulinger wrote:
>>> I guess the big question is this:
>>>
>>>     Is it _supposed_ to recover?
>>>
>>>   From Tony's notes, it's sounding like it's very critically
>>> dependent on the timer in the switch, which very well be the
>>> current cause of my issues.
>>>
>>> What I probably need to do is have a pair of phones automatically
>>> calling each other, and just leaving them up - just to
>>> generate a continuous independent background stream. That'll tell me
>>> if any glitches are specific to a particular
>>> channel, or if they are common across multiple calls - which I'd
>>> expect if the timer was swinging.
>>>
>>> I don't know where my latency is being introduced unfortunately...
>>>
>>> -- Nathan
>>>
>>> On 06/25/2013 01:59 AM, Avi Marcus wrote:
>>>> It sounds like I saw  this on a home internet connection to a public
>>>> server when the connection had varying latency.
>>>> Once the call jittered, it never recovered.
>>>> My stop-gap was to add a small jitter buffer
>>>> <http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Jitterbuffer>, e.g. <action
>>>> application="jitterbuffer" data="100:200:20"/> to the user dialplan.
>>>> This /seemed /to make FS handle rewriting the timestamps for drift
>>>> rather than relying on the Linksys ATA to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Probably the wrong solution, but all I had time/understanding for.
>>>> -Avi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Nathan Neulinger <nneul at mst.edu
>>>> <mailto:nneul at mst.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      On 06/24/2013 08:24 PM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
>>>>       > fsctl debug_level 10
>>>>       > Also make sure ve host has high res timing.
>>>>
>>>>      Turned up logging, will wait for next occurrence.
>>>>
>>>>      Not sure on the latter - it's a vmware ESXi 5.1 box running FC
>>>> 17 x86_64 as the guest.
>>>>
>>>>      /dev/rtc /dev/rtc0 exist
>>>>      posix and soft timers are loaded in fs
>>>>
>>>>      I've got a bunch of unused Dell 1950's on hand, so could use a
>>>> few of those machines if needed to get vmware out of the
>>>>      picture.
>>>>
>>>>      -- Nathan
>>>>
>>>>      ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>      Nathan Neulinger nneul at mst.edu <mailto:nneul at mst.edu>
>>>>      Missouri S&T Information Technology (573) 612-1412
>>>> <tel:%28573%29%20612-1412>
>>>>      System Administrator - Architect
>>>>
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