[Freeswitch-users] remove in local SDP word FREESWITCH

[Steven Ayre]

>
> 2) *Security trough obscurity != security* its always better than
> nothing. " hey you don't need to guess the
> the software I'm using , I'm giving the info for free just find an entry
> point  and you got it ...."


Actually I'd argue the opposite. Security through obscurity often makes
people assume they're secure and therefore neglect securing their systems
in the places that actually matter.

The only argument I can really see of hiding that you're running $version
of $product is that an bug in that $version means an exploit exists.

If that's the case then you need to upgrade to a patched copy of $product -
you can NOT rely on the fact that people will not realise that they can use
the exploit because you're hiding what you're running.

The flaw still exists and attackers might either a) guess you're using
$product and try the exploit anyway or b) have their bot just randomly try
every exploit in the book against you until one works in which case they
don't even need to know you're using $product.

The things that matte are actually verifying your authentication is working
correctly, you're running the latest software, you're following software
updates / security announcements, etc.

Besides even when $product/$version are hidden they can often be found
through fingerprinting by looking at differing behaviour between different
products and within a product between versions.

-Steve




On 21 June 2013 07:59, Antonio Teixeira <eagle.antonio at gmail.com> wrote:

>  @Ken
> I think we need to drop into the real world...
>
> 1) Ok .,... Don't forget to say thanks to Debian , CentOs , Fedora , PHP ,
> Python , Microsoft , all the authors of the OpenSource Libs , the creator
> of Make , the creator of the IDE that the Dev team uses ,  etc etc when you
> deliver the next project to your client ...
>
> 2)
> *Security trough obscurity != security* its always better than nothing. "
> hey you don't need to guess the
> the software I'm using , I'm giving the info for free just find an entry
> point  and you got it ...."
>
> I could also imagine you agree with showing the version of the software in
> the HTPP headers (stuff that happens on some webservers/libs ( from my ming
> i can recall Django?!).
>
> 3)
> The clients pays it doesn't really care about what software you use (
> unless he fears some patent infringement) he wants results.
>
> 4)
> No , Compliance could be internal or external the end-client could simply
> say "i don't want the freeswitch brand".
>
>
> ---- ///// ----
> @all
> I don't know you guys but my daily work is developing software for some
> fairly large financial institutions and sincerely i think you are all over
> reacting to this thing.
> Yes if you open-source something you will get part of your software stolen
> , changed or use in a way you were not expecting and not given credit for ,
> that's life .If you don't want it , close the source , resell it , ask for
> NDA's , etc.
> In my daily work me and my collegues use alot of open source ( contrary to
> the popular belief) , closed source and everything in between and you don't
> expect a public statement thanking anyone for anything.
>
> This is the way life works and with open-source this is our current world
> ( i think the FS Team could even offer a fully custom branded solution) so
> it could help monetize the project.
>
> And before you start thinking yes i bought G729 licenses , the FS Book
> even before it was out and no to many miles between me and Gluecon , yes i
> know airplanes exist :D.
>
> P.S - I Also assume that you all as sysadmins once found a problem that a
> blogger may have solved and on your final report to the administration you
> didn't wrote " problem solved by Blogger XXXXXX"....
>
> And never forget he is just the mailman sometimes the boss wants something
> ( even if not morally correct ) and you have to do it.
> But the point raised by Anthony regarding the SDP "freeswitch flag" is
> important and you be featured on the wiki :)
>
> Antonio Teixeira
>
>
>
> On 6/19/13 3:49 PM, Ken Rice wrote:
>
> Ok... Lets look at these...
>
> Branding... I don't want to show people that I'm using F/OSS software for
> running my for profit business so I can tell them I'm using either
> ${some_comercial_platform} or ${we_developed_this_ourselves}
>
> Security/Security Requirements - Security throught obscurity != security...
>
> Client Requirements - That's a new one one... Unless client is <see
> branding>
>
> Compliance - isnt this the same thing as see security
>
>
> On 6/19/13 8:44 AM, "Antonio Teixeira" <eagle.antonio at gmail.com> <eagle.antonio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  I could think off
>
> Branding
> Security
> Client Requirements
> Security Requirements
> Compliance
>
>
> On 6/19/13 2:37 PM, Michael Jerris wrote:
>
>  Why would you want to do that?
>
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Abdullah <abdullah at smonte.com> <abdullah at smonte.com> wrote:
>
>
>  HI ALL ,
>
> please help me ,how to change or remove o=*"FreeSWITCH"* in free switch Cli
> Log .
>
> any idea ??
>
>
>
> o=FreeSWITCH 1369449071 1369449072 IN IP4 10.10.50.1
>    s=FreeSWITCH
>    c=IN IP4 10.10.50.1
>
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