[Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)

Wed Jan 30 17:13:24 MSK 2013

The other thing to remember is many of the UK providers use BT's IPEX
platform, and basically bulk-break for you.

The one issue I've had with Magrathea is that they don't like it when you
make many API calls in quick succession. I once needed to set up 26,000
numbers in bulk and they don't seem to have a better way of doing so but
they still complained anyway.

On 30 January 2013 13:36, BookBag <asaad2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I use flowroute. Very good provider
> On Jan 29, 2013 5:38 PM, "Luke Milbourne" <luke.milbourne at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cal,
>>
>> Have you investigated AQL?
>>
>> I use them currently for my DID, not on the type of scale you are talking
>> about but I have been impressed with their services so far.
>>
>> Luke
>>
>> On 29 January 2013 20:55, <freeswitch-users-request at lists.freeswitch.org>wrote:
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>>>    1. Re: SPA-2102 Gives 486 instead of Call Waiting (Gilad Abada)
>>>    2. DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
>>>       (Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd])
>>>    3. Rejecting undesired codecs in bypass media mode
>>>       (Victor Chukalovskiy)
>>>    4. Re: DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013) (Avi Marcus)
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Gilad Abada <ga at steadfasttelecom.com>
>>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:34:47 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] SPA-2102 Gives 486 instead of Call
>>> Waiting
>>> I think if you turn debug and syslog on level 3 it gives more info
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Avi Marcus <avi at avimarcus.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I did, that's how I got the log in my first email...
>>> Was I supposed to find more than that?
>>> -Avi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Gilad Abada <ga at steadfasttelecom.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Avi,
>>>>
>>>> You can try to enable syslog trough the GUI and see what the spa 2102
>>>> os actually doing. I think it's under the system tab you have syslog and
>>>> debug server.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Avi Marcus <avi at avimarcus.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Any suggestions on how to figure this out? I'd really appreciate it!
>>>>
>>>> -Avi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Avi Marcus <avi at avimarcus.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here's an intersting one that seems to have no results on google or in
>>>>> debug info:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an SPA-2102 (firmware 5.2.10) that returns 486/Busy Here when a
>>>>> call comes in to the active line.
>>>>>
>>>>> "call waiting" is turned on, so it should be beeping in instead...
>>>>>
>>>>> I got these logs off the SPA but it doesn't seem very helpful: (and
>>>>> there should be more, I think)
>>>>>
>>>>> ==> /var/log/syslog <==
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]<<$FreeSWITCH: 5060(1148)
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]<<$FreeSWITCH: 5060(1148)
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 INVITE sip: 1632@$CLIENT_IP:5060 SIP/2.0#012
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 INVITE sip: 1632@$CLIENT_IP:5060 SIP/2.0#012
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]->$FreeSWITCH: 5060(312)
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]->$FreeSWITCH: 5060(312)
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>SIP/2.0 100 Trying
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>#012
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>#012
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]->$FreeSWITCH: 5060(338)
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]->$FreeSWITCH: 5060(338)
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>SIP/2.0 486 Busy Here
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>#012
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:14 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>#012
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:15 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]<<$FreeSWITCH: 5060(334)
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:15 $CLIENT_IP.smc.012.net.il<http://client_ip.smc.012.net.il/>[0]<<$FreeSWITCH: 5060(334)
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:15 ACK sip: 1632@$CLIENT_IP:5060 SIP/2.0#012
>>>>> Jan  7 14:38:15 ACK sip: 1632@$CLIENT_IP:5060 SIP/2.0#012
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw one suggestion to do a factory reset that fixed the problem, but
>>>>> that's a bit troublesome at the moment since the client can't
>>>>> load provisioning files (dumb network.)
>>>>>
>>>>> -Avi Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]" <
>>> cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk>
>>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:13:54 +0000
>>> Subject: [Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for some
>>> feedback.
>>>
>>> I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the
>>> last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm
>>> hoping it might open up a good discussion.
>>>
>>> I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with
>>> their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
>>>
>>> There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either
>>> reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are
>>> looking for.
>>>
>>> The criteria I've been looking for is;
>>>
>>> * Able to provide either US or UK numbers
>>> * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing
>>> * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI.
>>> * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis
>>> * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years
>>> * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
>>>
>>> So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this
>>> criteria;
>>>
>>> * Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for
>>> minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call
>>> quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6
>>> months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes
>>> automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
>>>
>>> * Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive
>>> but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further
>>> - but they seem very good so far.
>>>
>>> * Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum
>>> spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
>>>
>>> * BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol)..
>>> Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Cal
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Victor Chukalovskiy <victor.chukalovskiy at gmail.com>
>>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:21:44 -0500
>>> Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Rejecting undesired codecs in bypass media
>>> mode
>>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> *Call scenario:* call comes in with undesired codec only in SDP. (e.g.
>>> PCMA)
>>>
>>> In my sip profile I have:
>>> inbound-bypass-media="true"
>>> inbound-codec-negotiation="greedy"
>>> inbound-codec-prefs="PCMU,G729"
>>>
>>> *What happens:* regardless of the codec in SDP, Freeswitch executes
>>> dialplan and sends the call to the B-leg.
>>>
>>> It also happens regardless of wether I use "late" or "early" negotiation
>>>
>>> *What I would like to see:*
>>> FS rejecting the call right away if SDP does not match
>>> inbound-codec-prefs. Should not even hit the dial-plan.
>>>
>>> Any clue on how to achieve this?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> -Victor
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Avi Marcus <avi at avimarcus.net>
>>> To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:55:11 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] DID providers - any thoughts? (jan 2013)
>>> Shouldn't go without mentioning ukddi.com...
>>> It's free, since it's subsidized by incoming traffic compensation. He
>>> claims that's more profitable than termination service is, easily allowing
>>> him to keep the business running.
>>> I've not seen the API, I think it has to be specially activated.
>>>
>>> He's very responsive to emails.
>>>
>>> -Avi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <
>>> cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I've been recently reviewing several DID providers, and looking for
>>>> some feedback.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate this isn't totally on topic for FreeSWITCH, but over the
>>>> last few months I've found the community feedback to be invaluable - so I'm
>>>> hoping it might open up a good discussion.
>>>>
>>>> I would be really interested to hear other peoples experiences with
>>>> their DID providers, as much detail as possible.
>>>>
>>>> There are several providers we've looked at, but they are either
>>>> reselling others services, or do not deliver the service quality we are
>>>> looking for.
>>>>
>>>> The criteria I've been looking for is;
>>>>
>>>> * Able to provide either US or UK numbers
>>>> * Exposes an API that allows control of purchasing and routing
>>>> * Guarantees premium call quality, good latency, and inbound CLI.
>>>> * Does NOT operate on a market/exchange basis
>>>> * Trading as a telecoms provider for more than 5 years
>>>> * Has a reputable name within the community or industry
>>>>
>>>> So far, I have only found the following providers that meet this
>>>> criteria;
>>>>
>>>> * Hello Telecom - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered, no charges for
>>>> minutes, rental or concurrent channels. No minimum charges. Excellent call
>>>> quality/latency, no CLI problems, and almost no downtime in the last 6
>>>> months. However, they do not offer a sane purchasing API which makes
>>>> automation difficult, and interop with FS has been somewhat painful.
>>>>
>>>> * Simwood - UK numbers only, ITSPA registered. Slightly more expensive
>>>> but still very fair. Currently at inter-op stage, so can't comment further
>>>> - but they seem very good so far.
>>>>
>>>> * Voxbone - Most numbers, ITSPA registered. Extremely high minimum
>>>> spend, difficult to justify unless you already have existing traffic.
>>>>
>>>> * BT - UK numbers only (I think), ITSPA registered (of course lol)..
>>>> Over 9000 pages of inter-op and around £10k in set up fees.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Cal
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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