[Freeswitch-users] Silence suppression again

Alex Lake alex at digitalmail.com
Wed Feb 27 20:44:07 MSK 2013


A quick update on this - I have verified that suppresion of silence 
suppression(!) on Grandstreams doesn't work when it is the B-Party of a 
call. I'm not sure if silence-suppression is part of the SIP handshake, 
but I know that other VOIP technologies seem to be able to prevent it.
I'm calling in a handset specialist to advise..

One of the things that intrigues me is this extract from the log 
(particularly the reference to silenceSupp):

2013-02-27 17:28:05.151624 [DEBUG] switch_core_codec.c:244 
sofia/internal/0253302 at 004-0253.sb12.dmclub.org Restore previous codec 
PCMA:8.
2013-02-27 17:28:05.151624 [DEBUG] mod_sofia.c:754 Local SDP 
sofia/internal/0253302 at 004-0253.sb12.dmclub.org:
v=0
o=FreeSWITCH 1361975871 1361975873 IN IP4 176.58.88.201
s=FreeSWITCH
c=IN IP4 176.58.88.201
t=0 0
m=audio 10212 RTP/AVP 8 101
a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000
a=rtpmap:101 telephone-event/8000
a=fmtp:101 0-16
a=silenceSupp:off - - - -
a=ptime:30
a=sendrecv

What does all this mean?

 From the "A" leg of the call (which is placed by a LinkSys SPA922) I have:

<sip_local_sdp_str>v%3D0%0Ao%3DFreeSWITCH%201361974765%201361974767%20IN%20IP4%20176.58.88.201%0As%3DFreeSWITCH%0Ac%3DIN%20IP4%20176.58.88.201%0At%3D0%200%0Am%3Daudio%2011468%20RTP/AVP%208%20101%0Aa%3Drtpmap%3A8%20PCMA/8000%0Aa%3Drtpmap%3A101%20telephone-event/8000%0Aa%3Dfmtp%3A101%200-16%0Aa%3DsilenceSupp%3Aoff%20-%20-%20-%20-%0Aa%3Dptime%3A30%0Aa%3Dsendrecv%0A</sip_local_sdp_str>

 From the troublesome "B" leg of the call (placed by FreeSwitch to my 
GXP2000) I have:

sip_local_sdp_str>v%3D0%0Ao%3DFreeSWITCH%201361974745%201361974746%20IN%20IP4%20176.58.88.201%0As%3DFreeSWITCH%0Ac%3DIN%20IP4%20176.58.88.201%0At%3D0%200%0Am%3Daudio%2011488%20RTP/AVP%208%20101%2013%0Aa%3Drtpmap%3A101%20telephone-event/8000%0Aa%3Dfmtp%3A101%200-16%0Aa%3Dptime%3A30%0Aa%3Dsendrecv%0Am%3Daudio%2011488%20RTP/AVP%208%203%20101%2013%0Aa%3Drtpmap%3A101%20telephone-event/8000%0Aa%3Dfmtp%3A101%200-16%0Aa%3Dptime%3A20%0Aa%3Dsendrecv%0A</sip_local_sdp_str>

I was wondering if there's a way I can modify this to include 
a="silenceSupp:off - - - -" and whether that would make the slightest 
bit of difference to the handset's behaviour!



Alex
> Thanks.
> I've been looking at the channel variables of the call. And this is 
> part of it:
>
> <rtp_audio_in_raw_bytes>1089091</rtp_audio_in_raw_bytes><rtp_audio_in_media_bytes>957212</rtp_audio_in_media_bytes><rtp_audio_in_packet_count>10344</rtp_audio_in_packet_count><rtp_audio_in_media_packet_count>5581</rtp_audio_in_media_packet_count><rtp_audio_in_skip_packet_count>5480</rtp_audio_in_skip_packet_count><rtp_audio_in_jb_packet_count>0</rtp_audio_in_jb_packet_count><rtp_audio_in_dtmf_packet_count>0</rtp_audio_in_dtmf_packet_count><rtp_audio_in_cng_packet_count>4323</rtp_audio_in_cng_packet_count><rtp_audio_in_flush_packet_count>440</rtp_audio_in_flush_packet_count><rtp_audio_in_largest_jb_size>0</rtp_audio_in_largest_jb_size><rtp_audio_out_raw_bytes>1829908</rtp_audio_out_raw_bytes><rtp_audio_out_media_bytes>1829908</rtp_audio_out_media_bytes><rtp_audio_out_packet_count>10639</rtp_audio_out_packet_count><rtp_audio_out 
> _media_packet_count>10639</rtp_audio_out_media_packet_count><rtp_audio_out_skip_packet_count>0</rtp_audio_out_skip_packet_count><rtp_audio_out_dtmf_packet_count>0</rtp_audio_out_dtmf_packet_count><rtp_audio_out_cng_packet_count>0</rtp_audio_out_cng_packet_count><rtp_audio_rtcp_packet_count>0</rtp_audio_rtcp_packet_count><rtp_audio_rtcp_octet_count>0</rtp_audio_rtcp_octet_count>
>
> The thing that slightly concerns me here is 
> <rtp_audio_in_cng_packet_count>4323</rtp_audio_in_cng_packet_count>
>
> That sounds as though the inbound audio path contains some comfort 
> noise, suggesting that the handset the other end has some kind of 
> silence suppression enabled.
>
> I'm afraid it's a dreaded Grandstream GXP2000 - which I know are not 
> the handset of the cognoscenti! - but the customer tells me that he 
> has silence suppression disabled. Do we think this is correct?!
>
> Rgds,
> Alex
>> It does not send any by default.  Also, yes it only generates silence 
>> when the call is not getting any RTP.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Alex Lake <alex at digitalmail.com 
>> <mailto:alex at digitalmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Does Freeswitch enable any kind of silence suppression by
>>     default? If I
>>     have bridge_generate_comfort_noise=true, does that only have an
>>     effect
>>     when the audio-generating end decides to stop sending RTP?
>>
>>     Any other tips for diagnosing silence (it's kind of like a slow noise
>>     gate effect)?
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