[Freeswitch-users] SIP phones -

Ken Rice krice at freeswitch.org
Fri Aug 16 17:59:33 MSD 2013 

Their pure sip phones do not require a boot server, but if you are deploying
more then 1 it sure makes like a ton easier... In this case the boot server
is little more then a webserver with the correct files loaded on it...

I have found the web interfaces on the polycoms to be less than stellar...
And its a little hard to expose all the buttons and knobs they have in a web
interface... But simple configs are fairly straight forward...


On 8/16/13 8:26 AM, "Lawrence Conroy" <lconroy at insensate.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi there again folks,
>  for clarification, I don't know about the "pure SIP" versions or Poly
> deskphones
> -- I whinged only about the Lync variants of their DECT phones.
> In my case, once you've had one of your users blame you for the setup and
> describe the
> Polycom kirk butterfly as looking like a sanitary towel (only less useful),
> it's hard
> to retain your enthusiasm.
> 
> Do their pure SIP phones really need a separate boot server to be set up
> before they'll
> work properly? For central config sure, but for general operation of
> individual phones?
> 
> Re. SIP Deskphones, the Aastras seem to be popular on site and work quite
> well.
> We have a couple of hundred of them, and with no failures (at all) yet, so
> they must be
> pretty robust.
> 
> Older Cisco desk phones have left me with mental scars -- don't know about the
> new ones.
> [In the early days, Cisco's interpretation of SIP was kinda different, causing
> many debug
> sessions to find out what they needed]
> Grandstream 2K series worked, but suffered from unacceptable mains hum and odd
> little
> incompatibilities with fS.
> The Siemens/Gigaset SIP desk phones were pretty boring, IIRC, but had pretty
> good sound
>  quality.
> For the others, can't say.
> 
> all the best,
>   Lawrence
> 
> 
> On 16 Aug 2013, at 13:34, Ken Rice wrote:
>> I¹ve never found polycoms hard to debug or configure, you just need to set
>> up a proper boot server for them... Once you do that, the configs are
>> straight forward, and it¹ll actually logs back to that server...
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/16/13 7:25 AM, "Peter Blackford" <peter at onemetric.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I HATE Polycoms they are hard to configure and hard to debug.
>>> 
>>> I really like the Cisco SPA series as they are reliable however also hard to
>>> debug. Snoms and Yealinks are good and a lot easier to debug (Pulling packet
>>> captures directly from the phone makes life a lot easier)
>>> 
>>> Just my 2c.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 16 August 2013 20:35, Lawrence Conroy <lconroy at insensate.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>  +3 for the Gigasets. I have a number of these setups -- with different
>>>> handsets.
>>>> These are working fine with fS in all of my servers.
>>>> TL;DR: I paid my own money for two of these for my own use. My wife doesn't
>>>> know
>>>>  she's using SIP for all calls -- it's just a 'phone.
>>>> 
>>>> Voice Quality seems to be good, range is excellent, battery life is fine
>>>> (though
>>>> they spend most of their time in the desk stands, charging).
>>>> I have not used bluetooth headsets with them, so can't talk on that. The
>>>> 2.5
>>>> mm
>>>> audio connector works fine (some folk prefer clipping the phone to their
>>>> waist
>>>> and wearing a headset -- YMMV).
>>>> The N300A (consumer DECT SIP base station) voicemail is OK, but IMHO
>>>> over-compresses.
>>>> The in-built web server by which the base is configured is OK if slow.
>>>> Configuring the base via a connected handset is possible, but like every
>>>> manufacturer's
>>>> version of that I've seen, it's not recommended for mere mortals without a
>>>> lot of patience.
>>>> [...and apart from the annoyance of the battery compartment door falling
>>>> open
>>>> if you
>>>> drop them, and the handset NOT being waterproof/toiletproof, they're
>>>> remarkably robust]
>>>> 
>>>> As for Polycom, can't speak for the "straight" SIP versions, but I have
>>>> experience
>>>>  of their Lync DECT multicell system & handsets; IMHO these don't even
>>>> reach
>>>> the
>>>>  'blows goats' level. Work has 50 of them; user feedback is that voice
>>>> quality,
>>>>  coverage, battery life is "not as good as we might hope".
>>>> Opinion seems to be that these are a step back from the siemens cellular
>>>> DECT
>>>> 'phones we had on the old "steam" PBX (being polite).
>>>> Sigh.  For all portable systems, Try before you buy.
>>>> 
>>>> all the best,
>>>>  Lawrence
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 16 Aug 2013, at 10:15, Andrew Cassidy wrote:
>>>>>> Polycom is the name I see the most on this list, I've some some
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>> with Snom and Grandstream. The do the job but my favourites are Cisco
>>>>>> SPA50x series.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 16 August 2013 08:22, Stanislav Sinyagin <ssinyagin at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gigaset 610IP is a great cordless ip-phone. Works perfectly with
>>>>>>>> FreeSWITCH. You can also have several handsets served from one base.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> *From:* Karl Schmidt <karl at xtronics.com>
>>>>>>>> *To:* freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 5:36 AM
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Freeswitch-users] SIP phones -
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am thinking of getting a couple of SIP phones for our system - I see
>>>>>>>> some used on ebay.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are there ones to avoid? Good ones to seek?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have a couple of places where there needs to be a backup phone in
>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>> the workstation is
>>>>>>>> rebooting. I can set up POE if that sounds like a good idea.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Depending on what happens, I could then start retiring some of the
>>>>>> analog
>>>>>>>> phones replacing with SIP
>>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The bits I'm finding on the web is almost all by someone selling and
>>>>>>>> mostly spammy information. A
>>>>>>>> few clues could go a long way.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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