[Freeswitch-users] FS Slide deck?

[Michael Collins]

Karl,

Yeah, this post is wrong. You've got "acronym" misspelled. Once you fix that
then I think it's all good! ;)

Seriously, it's okay to put critical information into the wiki, but perhaps
you could remove the tongue-in-cheek comments.

-MC

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Karl Vesterling <kjv at ken-ton.com> wrote:

>
> If that's the case, does this also apply to VoIP gateway services?
>
> If so, I'll consider phrasing this differently:
>
> http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Voicepulse.xml
> --begin--
> Voicepulse Warning*WARNING!!!* Recent changes (Sep 2008) in VoicePulse
> have limited connect03 to only IAX termination. Please remove any entries
> that you may have reflecting the gateway below from your dialplan as it will
> most likely answer the call and play a message saying something to the
> effect of "Your call could not be completed as dialed because we changed our
> production environment in an effort to demonstrate what bad engineering is
> all about. BAD is an acronymn for Broken As Designed. Please hang up and
> make changes on all your switches. Even though we shouldn't have answered
> the call and simply ignored it entirely so that another gateway could
> facilitate your call, we FELT it wise to seriously inconvenience you by
> answering the call immediately giving no other gateway a chance to place the
> call. Thanks for using our service and we look forward to abusing you again
> in the near future.
> *UPDATE* - Problem getting worse, not better *3/30/2009*. I switched DID
> providers because of problems w/ Voicepulse, such as echo, dropped calls,
> and consistent registration problems hence calls don't get placed and
> inbound don't get routed to me. Incidentally, they will not port DID's,
> they'll tell you they will, but they don't.
> --end--
>
> Perhaps just saying, "stay away, far far away. Recommend this service only
> to people and/or organizations you don't like or are in direct competition
> with" would suffice eh?
>
> Suggestions? Recommendations?
>
> Best Regards,
> Karl J. Vesterling
> kjv at ken-ton.com
> 202-461-3231 x0
>
> On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:05 AM, Michael Collins wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Gabriel Gunderson <gabe at gundy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Michael Collins <msc at freeswitch.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks for reporting back. Please let all the Asterisk users know that
>> they
>> > are welcome to join us in #freeswitch on irc.freenode.net and that they
>> will
>> > not be abused like people do in other less friendly IRC channels.
>>
>> Funny you mention this.  Many people report that the way the FS
>> community refers to Asterisk in docs/wikis/irc/whatever makes the FS
>> camp seem *less* welcoming to them.  After all, they identify as
>> Asterisk Users and take the criticism as being kinda harsh.  Most of
>> them acknowledge the shortcomings of Asterisk but are put off when
>> someone else points them out.  It's crazy, I know.  The thing is, I
>> remember thinking that too.  After getting to know FS better, I didn't
>> notice it as much.  Nobody likes to hear their baby is ugly --even if
>> they know it is.
>>
>
> Interesting. I'd like to know what specifically turned them off. It could
> be node 117, but that was written by Anthony in response to dozens of
> questions about the subject. In any case, if the Asterisk guys look at the
> first edition of the Starfish/TFOT book they'll see glowing praise of
> Anthony Minessale and Brian West, so maybe they'll be willing to listen to
> those guys since they've got so much Asterisk knowledge. The other thing is
> that many people in the FreeSWITCH community are Asterisk refugees. They
> left Asterisk for FreeSWITCH because they had some sort of trouble with
> Asterisk. If that comes across in the docs then we'll have to see about
> cleaning that up.
>
>>
>> At our session, and in general, I've noticed people are more
>> interested in hearing about FS when you don't make direct comparisons
>> to Asterisk.  Besides, FS stands on it's own merit.
>>
>
> Agreed. Direct comparisons can always be slanted in any direction. Besides,
> FreeSWITCH stacks up very well against a lot of modern (i.e. expensive)
> equipment put out by the big boys (Cisco, Avaya, NEC, ShoreTel, etc.).
>
>>
>> Just what I've observed *and* my 2 additional cents.
>>
>> Gabe
>>
> Thanks,
> MC
>
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