[Freeswitch-users] mod_opal - call charged before H.225 connect

Anthony Minessale anthony.minessale at gmail.com
Wed Oct 7 07:10:51 PDT 2009 

I think the way to determine the funding is to get all the most important
issues up on jira, try to deal with them and see if we need to put bounties
on any of them to get them done faster.


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Tihomir Culjaga <tculjaga at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anthony,
>
> of course, nobody wants to start anything... we are all here to help making
> FS a better product.
>
> so, regarding the founding for mod_opal ... what is the amount you need?
>
>
> Tihomir.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Anthony Minessale <
> anthony.minessale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't mean to start anything.  I'm just saying we work very long hours
>> and barely get anybody asking about h.323.
>> I wanted to support it and that's why we took up a collection to get
>> funding for mod_opal but when only 1 donor showed any interest we were
>> forced to proceed in our spare time which is very limited.
>>
>> The developers of opal are not part of our project and they need financial
>> compensation to be motivated to work on it.  Its not even related to me its
>> only fair that an outside developer who makes his living as a consultant
>> would want money to integrate his work into our project.
>>
>> Like I said, I will do my best to point your issue to the opal devs but I
>> cannot force them to work on it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah I understand your point of view, but saying "I want a H.323 module"
>>> or "I want a Ferrari" wont magically make it happen.
>>>
>>> We need to work on it ourselves or pay to the people that knows how to do
>>> it to do it for us.
>>>
>>> There is no other way I think.
>>>
>>> Diego
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Tihomir Culjaga <tculjaga at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Diego,
>>>>
>>>> what i'm pointing here is the situation where you have a great product
>>>> that lacks in one of most common protocol. It is true H323 is going to
>>>> disappear (eventually), it is true that the community prefers SIP/IAX
>>>> instead ... but the reality still remains. H323 is going to be used for
>>>> quite a long time to exchange a lot of traffic while FS will be left aside.
>>>> Today, when you setup an IP peering interconnection 80% of carriers will
>>>> prefer H323.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, developing something costs "time" (and we all know what time
>>>> stands for...) and as i said, i understand the financial point of view and i
>>>> really understand if nobody is going to work on that, but let's face it FS
>>>> doesn't have any usable module to reliably handle H323 protocol.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> said that, i don't intend to offend anyone... just facing the reality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regarding the h323 module, we don't have any issue fixing the existing
>>>> or developing a new one... but before we go developing something it is
>>>> always better check if the thing you want already exists in an usable state
>>>> or not... that's what i did today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I'm interested in a reliable module handling H323v4... anyone else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> T.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Diego Viola <diego.viola at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Instead of complaining and demanding things for free, people should
>>>>> start to put their money where their mouth is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Diego
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Tihomir Culjaga <tculjaga at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi Anthony,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it is somewhere here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          switch_status_t
>>>>>> FSConnection::receive_message(switch_core_session_message_t *msg)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> anyhow, i will open an issue jira of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand your financial point of view, but anyhow while the entire
>>>>>> world is wants sip and trying to move to sip, the reality is quite
>>>>>> different. The majority of voice traffic exchanged via IP is still H323.
>>>>>> This means a working SIP - H323 interworking is really needed... pity nobody
>>>>>> wants/has time to work in this direction to produce a decent mod_h323.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Anthony Minessale <
>>>>>> anthony.minessale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pcap is not as useful as FS console log on debug with:
>>>>>>> sofia profile internal siptrace on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you should be reporting issues to jira under mod_opal not to the
>>>>>>> mailing list.
>>>>>>> http://jira.freeswitch.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FYI
>>>>>>> There is little financial support from the community for h323 which
>>>>>>> prevents the mod_opal from getting much attention.
>>>>>>> We actually have to contract the author of opal to help with these
>>>>>>> issues including the original writing of the module that he did with very
>>>>>>> little funding and nobody ever wants to pay him to improve it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That does not mean your issue will not be addressed but there is no
>>>>>>> promise how fast it will be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Tihomir Culjaga <tculjaga at gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hello guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i was playing with mod_opal to see if i can make it working ... well
>>>>>>>> it seems SIP-H323 interworking is not tuned at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a call from a registered sip user (1001) to PSTN via mod_opal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <include>
>>>>>>>>   <extension name="EMERGENCY">
>>>>>>>>     <condition field="destination_number"
>>>>>>>> expression="^0(112|9[23456])$">
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set"
>>>>>>>> data="effective_caller_id_number=1001282122"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="NCX_IP=10.4.4.254"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="call_timeout=30"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="hangup_after_bridge=true"/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="bridge" data="opal/h323:0$1@${NCX_IP}"/>
>>>>>>>>     </condition>
>>>>>>>>   </extension>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   <extension name="SPECIAL_SERVICES">
>>>>>>>>     <condition field="destination_number"
>>>>>>>> expression="^0(9[01789]\d{3,4})$">
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set"
>>>>>>>> data="effective_caller_id_number=1001282122"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="NCX_IP=10.4.4.254"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="call_timeout=30"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="hangup_after_bridge=true"/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="bridge" data="opal/h323:0$1@${NCX_IP}"/>
>>>>>>>>     </condition>
>>>>>>>>   </extension>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   <extension name="ENYTHING_ELSE">
>>>>>>>>     <condition field="destination_number"
>>>>>>>> expression="^0([2-8]\d{6,7}|0[1-9]\d{7,8}|00[1-9]\d{8,16})$">
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set"
>>>>>>>> data="effective_caller_id_number=1001282122"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="NCX_IP=10.4.4.254"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="call_timeout=30"/>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="set" data="hangup_after_bridge=true"/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       <action application="bridge" data="opal/h323:0$1@${NCX_IP}"/>
>>>>>>>>     </condition>
>>>>>>>>   </extension>
>>>>>>>> </include>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the many issues i sow is that FS connects the call on SIP leg
>>>>>>>> before it actually receives H.225 connect from H323 leg... as it is
>>>>>>>> configured to send 200 OK on the 1st H.225 message containing a FastStart
>>>>>>>> element/OLC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attached is the tcpdump i took on FS machine... just use this
>>>>>>>> filter: "h225 or h245 or q931 or sip"
>>>>>>>> Also, you can check the attac CDR,,,, this is an unanswered call i
>>>>>>>> placed to PSTN and FS billed it 23 seconds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell where i can do correct SIP - H323 message mappings
>>>>>>>> to avoid this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> T.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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