[Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH HA + Loadbalancing

Sun Aug 30 22:37:00 PDT 2009

I was thinking more like something the size of war and peace but written
with the style of an RFC (and about as interesting and an RFC)

I know there has already been some discussion on several fronts of atleast
getting the core and several other pieces to where they need to be for
stateful failover and I'm not sure if its been mentioned here, but sofia is
going to be a bit of work and estimates run in the 100K USD range. Now if we
could get a get a couple of corporate sponsors to help here it would be
great.

K

> From: Jim Burke <jim at evolutiontel.net>
> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:32:22 +1000
> To: <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH HA + Loadbalancing
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> I don't disagree, the scenario you mentioned is just the tip of the
> iceberg when it comes to getting something like this working smoothly.
>  However to try and cover them all in a single post (assuming that I
> could) would have resulted in something akin to War and Peace and
> probably bored the pants off of most readers :)  For any HA solution
> to move from a concept into reality, it would require some serious
> brainstorming to identify all scenarios and how to handle them.
> 
> Given that many posts in this thread mentioned transfer of call state
> at time of failure or some form of virtualisation, I wanted to provide
> another solution that would provide real time call state updates
> between FS boxes utilising mechanisms that are largely already
> in-place and thus (hopefully) reducing software development time if
> someone was willing to cough up the $$$$$.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ken Rice<krice at freeswitch.org> wrote:
>> Your forgetting that with RTP theres the duplication of RTP that may be
>> required along with a mechanism that keeps media timers working properly...
>> 
>> Where many things don't support RTP timers they sure come in handy on a
>> regular basis especially dealing with several of the other software based
>> platforms out there that just love to have calls end but never want to send
>> a BYE
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Jim Burke <jim at evolutiontel.net>
>>> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:54:50 +1000
>>> To: <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] FreeSWITCH HA + Loadbalancing
>>> 
>>> Conceptually in a pure SIP installation of Freeswitch, hot standby or
>>> active standby could be achieved through duplication of messages
>>> (INVITE, 200OK and BYE for calls) between 2 boxes and then using VRRP
>>> to change the IP address when the box falls over.  Going this way
>>> allows call state to be as up to date as possible.  Obviously this
>>> would require logic added to sofia to transfer the RTP port
>>> information and UUID information between the FS instances (Easily
>>> achieved using additional SIP headers).  It would also require that
>>> sofia does not forward duplicated messages to gateways or user agents.
>>>  CDR information would also need to be generated correctly (My
>>> experience of Radius with Opensips is that it generates start and stop
>>> messages on INVITE/200OK then BYE respectively so this could be an
>>> easy solution to the CDR issue).
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Raimund Sacherer<rs at runsolutions.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> So, the first way would be to have a look on the sip stack, which is, in
>>>> fact, sofia ..., well, sound's like a nice, fun, long-going hobby project
>>>> to
>>>> me :-)
>>>> I will definitly at least look at the sip code to check if it is something
>>>> i
>>>> would myself willingly give over to ...
>>>> But I *really* do want  a setup where it does not matter if one specific FS
>>>> instance is UP or NOT ...
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Raimund Sacherer
>>>> -
>>>> RunSolutions
>>>>     Open Source It Consulting
>>>> -
>>>> 
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>>>> 07121 -  Palma de Mallorca
>>>> Baleares
>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:04 PM, Brian West wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The sip stack needs to be modified to spin that data up into the state
>>>> machine so that it can take over calls once the fail over takes place...
>>>> its
>>>> not an easy task.
>>>> /b
>>>> On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Mitul Limbani wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Is itnpossible to have a db cluster know the state of each and every call
>>>> and then use Heartbeat on this db +
>>>> fs cluster so that clients see only one ip where as internally all fs boxes
>>>> refer db for call states, db again is under replication.
>>>> This in the thioery can be written, but I am sure if we think bit more on
>>>> this direction the problem seem to be getting addressed.
>>>> Other guys also chip in their 2 cents, we just need 50 of em to make a full
>>>> dollar.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>> Mitul Limbani,
>>>> Founder & CEO,
>>>> Enterux Solutions Pvt. Ltd.,
>>>> The Enterprise Linux Company (r),
>>>> http://www.enterux.com
>>>> http://www.entVoice.com
>>>> 
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