[Freeswitch-users] Max of 170 channels in the conference room.
Anthony Minessale
anthony.minessale at gmail.com
Thu May 29 13:31:09 PDT 2008
you can do originate
{ignore_early_media=true,bypass_media=true}sofia/default/foo1 at bar.comsofia/default/
foo2 at bar.com inline
and hairpin 2 calls between the provider
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Nicolas Brenner <nicolas at medularis.com>
wrote:
> Anthony and Ken (specially), thank you very much for your explanations
> and figures. About what Ken said, how could I initiate a call in media
> mode and then switch it to no_media when the second leg is
> bridged/answered? Also, is this something my VoIP provider should be
> able to support specially, or is it just standard SIP signaling? Thank
> you again very much for your help!
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Ken Rice <krice at suspicious.org> wrote:
> > With FreeSwitch there are a couple of ways to accomplish what you are
> doing
> > with 3 distinct levels of performance
> >
> > Way 1) Full Media Interaction/Transcoding. This is very similar to the
> way
> > asterisk works and should on modern several give you atleast 2 to 3 times
> > the performance you see on asterisk (not accounting for any transcoding
> load
> > you may introduce)
> >
> > Way 2) Media Proxy mode. In this mode you will see a good bit of
> performance
> > gain as FreeSwitch will only proxy the media it will not interact with
> the
> > media stream (ie: no transcoding, no DTMF events etc) but you can still
> cut
> > thru nat, appease providers that don't want to "hairpin" the media on
> their
> > networks, and still do a full topology hide (not applicable for your
> > scenario below as you can no jump in and out of proxy only mode)
> >
> >
> > Way 3) No Media Mode. In this mode FreeSwitch functions more along the
> lines
> > of openser/ser minus the media proxies. Media is passed directly between
> the
> > end points and FreeSwitch is completely out of the media path. This is
> the
> > most efficient mode for routing calls as there is no media load on
> > freeswitch and the number of concurrent calls is limited by system memory
> > resources and speed of the calls coming in (as in how many calls/second
> can
> > freeswitch process) for your particular application originating calls
> would
> > start in media mode and them move to no media mode once the second leg
> > starts to come online. This would have an impact of performance based on
> the
> > total number of calls doing media with freeswitch at any given time.
> >
> >
> > Now for some real numbers...
> >
> > I route calls primarily using the no-media-mode using dell 1950s with
> Dual
> > QuadCore 2Ghz E5335's w/ 4Gs of ram. (admittedly this is a slightly
> > different method from what you are doing) in our configuration we are
> able
> > route in excess of 200 calls/sec with a concurrent call load in excess of
> > 3000 calls (6000 legs) per machine. Where we run into problems is not in
> the
> > concurrent call volume, its in the Calls/Sec luckily FreeSwitch has a
> > Sessions/Second Limiter built in and we can set this and keep the box
> from
> > melting down.
> >
> > Please Note in the above configuration we are largely routing autodialer
> > traffic so performace should be much better if you decrease the calls per
> > second and increase the average call length. High Call Per Second Rates
> are
> > the bane of any switch
> >
> > K
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Nicolas Brenner <nicolas at medularis.com>
> >> Reply-To: <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
> >> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:54:07 -0400
> >> To: <freeswitch-users at lists.freeswitch.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Max of 170 channels in the conference
> room.
> >>
> >> Hi, sorry for my ignorance, but I was wondering if these figures are
> >> in any way comparable to the performance FS would have doing bridged
> >> calls?
> >>
> >> I have a web callback app that's currently running on top of Asterisk,
> >> and I'm planning on moving to FS, and use originate/&bridge commands
> >> to bridge calls between two actual phones. I'd like to know if (using
> >> the same setup as Johny) I'd be able to hit more than 170 channels?
> >> (or more than 170 calls, I guess that would be 340 channels).
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Brian West <brian at freeswitch.org>
> wrote:
> >>> These aren't really dual core CPU's they are single core with
> >>> hyper-threading. If you disable hyper-threading you'll get more
> >>> performance.
> >>> You'll never get that great of performance out of these CPU's. The new
> >>> 64bit woodcrest/clovertown Xeon's are much better... night and day
> >>> difference. (Pinto vs Porsche)
> >>> /b
> >>> On May 29, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Johny Kadarisman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Brian, attached is my cpu info.
> >>>
> >>> Rgds,
> >>>
> >>> ================
> >>> processor : 0
> >>> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> >>> cpu family : 15
> >>> model : 2
> >>> model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz
> >>> stepping : 9
> >>> cpu MHz : 2784.780
> >>> cache size : 512 KB
> >>> physical id : 0
> >>> siblings : 2
> >>> core id : 0
> >>> cpu cores : 1
> >>> fdiv_bug : no
> >>> hlt_bug : no
> >>> f00f_bug : no
> >>> coma_bug : no
> >>> fpu : yes
> >>> fpu_exception : yes
> >>> cpuid level : 2
> >>> wp : yes
> >>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca
> >>> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxs
> >>> r sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
> >>> bogomips : 5573.58
> >>> clflush size : 64
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> processor : 1
> >>> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> >>> cpu family : 15
> >>> model : 2
> >>> model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz
> >>> stepping : 9
> >>> cpu MHz : 2784.780
> >>> cache size : 512 KB
> >>> physical id : 0
> >>> siblings : 2
> >>> core id : 0
> >>> cpu cores : 1
> >>> fdiv_bug : no
> >>> hlt_bug : no
> >>> f00f_bug : no
> >>> coma_bug : no
> >>> fpu : yes
> >>> fpu_exception : yes
> >>> cpuid level : 2
> >>> wp : yes
> >>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca
> >>> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxs
> >>> r sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
> >>> bogomips : 5569.09
> >>> clflush size : 64
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> processor : 2
> >>> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> >>> cpu family : 15
> >>> model : 2
> >>> model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz
> >>> stepping : 9
> >>> cpu MHz : 2784.780
> >>> cache size : 512 KB
> >>> physical id : 3
> >>> siblings : 2
> >>> core id : 0
> >>> cpu cores : 1
> >>> fdiv_bug : no
> >>> hlt_bug : no
> >>> f00f_bug : no
> >>> coma_bug : no
> >>> fpu : yes
> >>> fpu_exception : yes
> >>> cpuid level : 2
> >>> wp : yes
> >>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca
> >>> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxs
> >>> r sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
> >>> bogomips : 5569.31
> >>> clflush size : 64
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> processor : 3
> >>> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> >>> cpu family : 15
> >>> model : 2
> >>> model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz
> >>> stepping : 9
> >>> cpu MHz : 2784.780
> >>> cache size : 512 KB
> >>> physical id : 3
> >>> siblings : 2
> >>> core id : 0
> >>> cpu cores : 1
> >>> fdiv_bug : no
> >>> hlt_bug : no
> >>> f00f_bug : no
> >>> coma_bug : no
> >>> fpu : yes
> >>> fpu_exception : yes
> >>> cpuid level : 2
> >>> wp : yes
> >>> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca
> >>> cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxs
> >>> r sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr
> >>> bogomips : 5569.67
> >>> clflush size : 64
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Brian West <brian at freeswitch.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you cat /proc/cpuinfo and post that?
> >>>> /b
> >>>> On May 29, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Johny Kadarisman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Anthony,
> >>>>
> >>>> It's a 32bits Ubuntu server version, and I had blindly follow and run
> the
> >>>> test with following settings :)
> >>>>
> >>>> ulimit -c unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -d unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -f unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -i unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -n 999999
> >>>> ulimit -q unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -u unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -v unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -x unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -s 244
> >>>> ulimit -l unlimited
> >>>> ulimit -a
> >>>> bin/freeswitch
> >>>>
> >>>> also, I set with 120ms interval, I still hit around 170 channels
> limits in
> >>>> one room.
> >>>> Let me play around more with multiple room setup.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rgds,
> >>>> Johny K.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Anthony Minessale
> >>>> <anthony.minessale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We don't do much testing on the conference but i can give you a few
> >>>>> pointers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> is it a 32 or 64 bit box?
> >>>>> if it's 32 you can try this as root before you start up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ulimit -s 244
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you can also change the conference interval to higher number of ms
> >>>>> between packets to give it more time to mux the audio, the default is
> 20
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> you should be able to use 30,40,60,120 as well
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can also try multiple conference to compare.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Johny Kadarisman <jkr888 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I build a new test boxes for freeswitch. and trying to simulate high
> >>>>>> load condition.
> >>>>>> I have one freeswitch box that host conference apps, and another box
> >>>>>> with simple js to originate call to the conference room.
> >>>>>> To monitor the sound quality, I have one phones that dial into the
> >>>>>> conference room, and then start streaming/playing moh music in the
> >>>>>> conference.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In many scenario that i tried (mute, unmute, one or multiple rooms),
> the
> >>>>>> max total number of channels is about 170 channels before FS start
> to
> >>>>>> slowing down on creating new channels. The Cpu's only tops around
> 40-50%,
> >>>>>> and the voice/rtp start to jitter or delays on my phone.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> These test boxes is running on 2 processor 2.8GHz Dual Core xeon
> cpu's
> >>>>>> and about 1Gb memory.
> >>>>>> I think the number already pretty impressive, at least for me :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But is this limit sounds right from others experience? Can I still
> do
> >>>>>> more tuning?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Johny K.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
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