[Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP
Andrew Gilbert
gilbertandrew at me.com
Tue Dec 2 08:24:48 PST 2008
Mark and David,
I am willing to help some with testing here as well, if you need it.
Ping me directly or we can get on the IRC. I am on Mac OS, but have
readily available vm's with Debian, etc. I also have Prophecy.
I have a general interest in an ASR solution as well. Voxeo is great,
but using it as an MRCP proxy seems odd. As a full fledged VXML
solution it is great, if you can afford it. But having a good ASR
solution is good first step to trying to get something like OpenVXI
working as well.
That said, seems like a bounty or money to help FS is a better spend
anyway. It is a one time cost, not a variable cost. And it goes
straight to the guys doing the real work.
I built unimrcp last night, it was quite straight forward. In theory,
if I weren't old and my C/autoconf skills rather atrophied, it
wouldn't seem like it would be that huge a deal to port/fix openmrcp
to unimrcp.
Finally, Anthony I was looking at the Lumenvox path as well, but got
deterred by the licensing hassle. This seems to be a universal ASR
issue. I would reason I can find the old module in SVN? Were they
going to grant "community dev" licenses? Again - I am willing to
volunteer to do some testing/doc at least.
Andy
On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
> If you can get it to break on linux I will ssh in and fix it for you.
> If you cannot, i can try to fix it for you over rdp but that won't
> be very fun.
>
> We can think about reinstating mod_lumenvox as well as another
> windows based asr
> alternative. I deleted it for the same reason we will probably
> delete mod_openmrcp because
> nobody was using it and there was no way to support it because our
> dev licenses had expired.
>
> Lumenvox has offered us some new dev licenses to bring it back but I
> would need someone to actually want it to work to put in charge of it.
>
> We will be clear about what is supported and what is not in the
> 1.0.2 release scheduled
> to be released in the near future.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:11 AM, David Knell <dave at 3c.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
>
>> mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party
>> individual.
>>
>> As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided
>> to discontinue the openmrcp project.
>> So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued
>> code. This was not our decision it was his.
> I absolutely understand this but it's important, from a user point
> of view, to be able to know which bits of FS are current/supported
> and which aren't.
>
>> Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you
>> reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any
>> mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I
>> have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an
>> issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to
>> some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue,
>> it will be a long time until we can deal with it.
> It's useful to know that there are people using mod_openmrcp without
> issue: I did ask here if anyone was a while back, and no-one fessed
> up. I'll give it a go on a Linux box and report back. And if you'd
> like a dev/test environment set up, then just tell me which one.
>
>> And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if
>> the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from
>> it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.
>>
>> I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought
>> to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to
>> support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not
>> the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've
>> been answering email for 4 hours now)
> Those guys who claim to have all that money in an offshore bank
> account are lying - you don't have to reply to them in future ;-)
> Seriously, though, I don't think it's too outrageous an idea to
> document what's supported and were you (for example) to have
> suggested that I get in touch with the contributors to the various
> modules, ask them what their view of its status is, condense the
> answers in to a list and report back, it's something I'd quite
> happily do.
>
>> My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make
>> mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the
>> development can be supported by the original author.
> Quite happy to participate in that, too.. the problem is that I've a
> demo to do like yesterday and the timescale for mod_unimrcp is a bit
> on the long side for that. I'd rather not have to do it with
> Asterisk and Lumenvox..!
>
> Cheers --
>
> Dave
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, David Knell <dave at 3c.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial
>> tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more
>> intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume
>> that this is something to do with something being freed when it
>> shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third
>> session after the module being loaded.
>>
>> Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you
>> guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what
>> isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported
>> modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by
>> default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise
>> folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in
>> circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it
>> doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not
>> supported.
>>
>> Cheers --
>>
>> Dave
>>> I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite
>>> a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, mszlazak at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Anthony,
>>>>
>>>> Oh! OK.
>>>>
>>>> So is this module "totally broken".
>>>>
>>>> I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the
>>>> example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might
>>>> because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial
>>>> download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the
>>>> right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView
>>>> to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and
>>>> changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel
>>>> setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of
>>>> output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. Mark.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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