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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Mike,<br>
      <br>
      thanks for helping against the unteachable ignoramus here... I am
      very bugged about this SHIT!<br>
      <br>
      Currently in default this works as you described; I type the "0"
      of "089xxxxxx". This goes to the SIP gateway (=Freeswitch), it
      send it out on the external ISDN, and this answeres something. It
      might be "incomplete"... don't know. In any case: The calling is
      aborted by the SIP gateway (=Freeswitch) and there is currently
      only the possibility to enable this crap "overlap dialing" feature
      in freeswitch (it just waits some seconds if another digit comes
      and then dials after the last). If it is just wrong implemented:
      Fine! Lets fix it. But... Don't you think it makes it necessary to
      change the dialplan behaviour at all? Currently it is fully based
      on complete numbers; it just cannot handle incomplete numbers, is
      it?<br>
      <br>
      In any case: I'll do an bug report with log files and so on. BUT
      PLEASE: I cannot find anything anymore about creating pcap file.
      Does anybody have a hint how to do this currently with
      FreeTDM/libpri?<br>
      <br>
      Regards,<br>
      Markus Mueller<br>
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      What your searching for IS overlap dialing. &nbsp;And it works by
      sending the setup and receiving the error code for incomplete.
      &nbsp;This should pass across a bridge, you can also handle this
      yourself in the dialplan if you like. &nbsp;If this is not passing
      across a tdm to tdm bridge, that is a bug and should get filed in
      jira.
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      <div>Mike</div>
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          <div>On Sep 7, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Markus M&uuml;ller &lt;<a
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Stanislav Sinyagin,<br>
                <br>
                what you mean is the "overlap dialing" feature, this is
                already implemented and working in freetdm. It waits
                some seconds after the last number and then dials.<br>
                <br>
                ====&gt;&gt; This is not what I am searching for ! This
                is also not what I am talking about ! Please accept this
                and make sure how the reality is before saying that I am
                telling wrong things.<br>
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                I am searching what I worte, if you believe or not. ISDN
                in germany currently works this way, and yes, there is a
                "completeness" of numbers which is interactively
                determined by sending each key through the ISDN network
                and getting back when a destination has been found.<br>
                <br>
                Regards,<br>
                Markus Mueller<br>
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                  10pt; ">I guess there's no such ting as "complete
                  number", but a simple interdigit timeout. If you stop
                  dialing and don't enter digits for 10 seconds, it
                  automatically places the call.<br>
                  <br>
                  So, you need a gateway which supports such an
                  interdigit timeout. In theory, you can implement that
                  with an external script in FreeSWITCH. On practice,
                  needs testing and a proof of concept.<br>
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                          Markus M&uuml;ller <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                          Saturday, September 7, 2013 10:08 PM<br>
                          <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                          Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Call relaying (ISDN
                          &lt;&gt; Freeswitch &lt;&gt; ISDN)<br>
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                            <div class="yiv1287044465moz-cite-prefix">Hi
                              all,<br>
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                                ">hi Markus,<br>
                                how do you determine if it's a complete
                                number? Do you expect the outgoing ISDN
                                channel to tell you that?<br>
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                            Sorry that I don't have all details; I am
                            not as familary as I want to with the ISDN
                            protocols. But I know that each number goes
                            one by one to the outgoing ISDN and then
                            outgoint ISDN tells you back when you have
                            reached a destination. If needed I can make
                            a log when I have my Siemens Hipath placed
                            behind my Freeswitch in NT mode; there you
                            can see the numbers comming one by one.<br>
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                                I also wonder what happens if you attach
                                an ISDN-SIP gateway, like Patton. Will
                                you have a new SIP message (which?) on
                                every dialed digit?<br>
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                            Normaly all the products do the "overlap
                            dialing" crap, as mentioned in my first
                            email. I don't know for sure but I think
                            there is no alternative, especially if you
                            make only SIP and not ISDN.<br>
                            <br>
                            No comments about my design suggestion?<br>
                            <br>
                            Regards,<br>
                            Markus<br>
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                                            style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                                        Saturday, September 7, 2013 1:52
                                        PM<br>
                                        <b><span
                                            style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                                        [Freeswitch-dev] Call relaying
                                        (ISDN &lt;&gt; Freeswitch
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                                      Hello Freeswitch Developers,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      ISDN in germany (maybe also
                                      somewhere else) has a feature,
                                      which colides<br>
                                      with the design of a dialplan: it
                                      sends the numbers the user types
                                      into<br>
                                      his phone LIVE (!) through the
                                      ISDN network. If the number is
                                      complete,<br>
                                      the ISDN network tells it to the
                                      caller; Only now the call get<br>
                                      established (means the dialplan
                                      gets invoked). So you have to do
                                      an own<br>
                                      step (live and interactive
                                      determination of the number)
                                      BEFORE the<br>
                                      dialplan comes in line.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Because this is object not
                                      supported by freeswith, in the
                                      following<br>
                                      situation<br>
                                      <br>
                                      User &lt;-&gt; Analog Phone
                                      &lt;-&gt; Siemens Hipath &lt;-&gt;
                                      ISDN &lt;-&gt; [FreeTDM &lt;-&gt;<br>
                                      Freeswitch &lt;-&gt; FreeTDM]
                                      &lt;-&gt; ISDN &lt;-&gt; World
                                      &lt;-&gt; ISDN Destiation<br>
                                      <br>
                                      you have to do "overlap dialing".
                                      Means, freeswitch waits some
                                      seconds<br>
                                      until the user has entered the
                                      last number and then it goes
                                      directly to<br>
                                      the dialplan.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      -&gt; This is not what I need!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      I want that it works as if there
                                      is no FreeSwitch in between.
                                      Means,<br>
                                      freeswitch should relay each
                                      number the user types into his
                                      phone to the<br>
                                      ISDN on the remote side, and make
                                      the dialplan stuff AFTER the
                                      number<br>
                                      has been dicovered for
                                      completeness.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      How do you think this should be
                                      implemented? If nobody has an
                                      object, I<br>
                                      would code this the following way
                                      into FreeTDM: If I get a call with
                                      a<br>
                                      starting number I know that it
                                      must go to the external ISDN
                                      (means: a<br>
                                      second dialplan), I first relay
                                      the typed numbers and determine
                                      the full<br>
                                      number. Only now, when I got the
                                      full number, I would give this
                                      call to<br>
                                      the higher layers.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      What you think about this?<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Regards,<br>
                                      Markus Mueller<br>
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                          target="_blank">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev</a><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.freeswitch.org/"
                          target="_blank">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
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Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com/">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a>

FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cudatel.com/">http://www.cudatel.com</a>

Official FreeSWITCH Sites
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org/">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cluecon.com/">http://www.cluecon.com</a>

FreeSWITCH-dev mailing list
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev</a>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org/">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
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_________________________________________________________________________<br>
            Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a><br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a><br>
            <br>
            FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cudatel.com">http://www.cudatel.com</a><br>
            <br>
            Official FreeSWITCH Sites<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a><br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cluecon.com">http://www.cluecon.com</a><br>
            <br>
            FreeSWITCH-dev mailing list<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev</a><br>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev</a><br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org">http://www.freeswitch.org</a><br>
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Professional FreeSWITCH Consulting Services:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:consulting@freeswitch.org">consulting@freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com">http://www.freeswitchsolutions.com</a>

FreeSWITCH-powered IP PBX: The CudaTel Communication Server
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cudatel.com">http://www.cudatel.com</a>

Official FreeSWITCH Sites
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org">http://wiki.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cluecon.com">http://www.cluecon.com</a>

FreeSWITCH-dev mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org">FreeSWITCH-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/listinfo/freeswitch-dev</a>
UNSUBSCRIBE:<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev">http://lists.freeswitch.org/mailman/options/freeswitch-dev</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.freeswitch.org">http://www.freeswitch.org</a>
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