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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can’t imagine there are unlimited cases to make this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There should be some kind of limited number of steps which would
lead to that direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Reading all about this for several years seems it is some kind
of voodoo magic which is kept in secret.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>From my experience it should be easy to document this and make
some kind of guide for others to follow.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>From good atmosphere in this mailing list I think there will be
no problem for me to learn these secrets.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mindaugas Kezys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>http://www.kolmisoft.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>VoIP Billing and Routing Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
[mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken
Rice<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2009 m. rugpjûèio 28 d. 18:13<br>
<b>To:</b> freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Scalabilty of Freeswitch<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The
problem here is how you tune for the most calls possible is different for
different objectives... There is no 1 size fits all solutions<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Mindaugas Kezys
<mkezys@gmail.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org"
<freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:55:20 +0300<br>
<b>To: </b><freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Scalabilty of Freeswitch<br>
<br>
<span style='color:#1F497D'>I would like to comment on this statement:<br>
<br>
</span></span>“3) 9.9/10 newcomers who try to do load testing get it wrong
somewhere and we spend a month dealing with them on the list etc.”<br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
I see this very often in this mailing-list. Would it be a good idea to
create wiki page how to fine tune Freeswitch to handle as many calls as
possible?<br>
<br>
Maybe such page already exist? (I’m not able to find it). If not – I would like
to help creating it. <br>
<br>
After few months when we will start developing our new product – I will come
here and will cry for help (I will be one of these 9.9/10) to tune FS to handle
as many calls as possible, because that will be my goal.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Mindaugas Kezys<br>
<a href="http://www.kolmisoft.com">http://www.kolmisoft.com</a><br>
VoIP Billing and Routing Solutions<br>
<br>
</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org
[<a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]">mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Minessale<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2009 m. rugpj?èio 27 d. 20:07<br>
<b>To:</b> freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Scalabilty of Freeswitch<br>
</span><br>
I think there are 3 main problems.<br>
<br>
1) The core developers should not be blowing their own horn about performance
results in any official capacity because it will appear skewed to skeptics.<br>
2) The core developers are too busy to bother with gathering the stats.<br>
3) 9.9/10 newcomers who try to do load testing get it wrong somewhere and we
spend a month dealing with them on the list etc.<br>
<br>
It sort of like if someone offered FREE CARS, take one and drive away and do
whatever you want with it.<br>
People show up and say, "how fast can it go?" "how well does it
handle on curves?" .. I don't know it's a FREE CAR, go drive it and you
tell me.<br>
<br>
I think some people forget this is an open source project and it's up to the
community to decide for themselves how well it works.<br>
<br>
I would love to find a way to save us all the time of dealing with people who
try to load test first and try real calls later.<br>
<br>
The industry standard for calls is 50cps which is assuming a typical load of
25cps burst-able to 50 to cover a fault in a cluster.<br>
<br>
Most people doing 50cps all day long should be making so much money they can
either afford nicer boxes or more expensive equipment if<br>
they need to scale more.<br>
<br>
FS can handle this load easily and many people tune their box to do triple that
if not even more but that is all subjective to their<br>
hardware choices etc.<br>
<br>
sigh,<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Michael Giagnocavo <mgg@giagnocavo.net>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Can’t we do what some vendors do?
Pick the simplest config for a simple scenario, like statically bridging two
channels, then publish those numbers? Or say, use one of the standard SIPP
scenarios with no RTP? And so on. <br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><br>
<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>
freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [<a
href="mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]">mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Jerris<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:44 AM<br>
<br>
<br>
<b>To:</b> freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Scalabilty of Freeswitch<br>
</span><br>
<br>
<br>
if you have the time and ability to create such a multi-dementional array of
tjat data in some usable form that would be fine, it is a wiki after all.
I however tend to think that there are too many variables to reliably
provide any sort of real data and that the time required to do so would be
quite a lot. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Mindaugas Kezys wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Maybe it would be a good idea to
create wiki page just to put such kind of information in a table:<br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Computer specs | Other comments |
Codecs used | With/Without Media | Max sim. calls reached | etc<br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>That way interested persons could
get a grasp what is really all about.<br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>This is very common question based
on which many people measure switch capabilities, so in my opinion should be
treated with that in mind (as marketing oportunity)<br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Regards,<br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Mindaugas Kezys<br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.kolmisoft.com">http://www.kolmisoft.com</a><br>
</span><br>
<span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>VoIP Billing and Routing Solutions<br>
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<b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>
freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [<a
href="mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]">mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Collins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2009 m. rugpj?èio 26 d. 23:36<br>
<b>To:</b> freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Scalabilty of Freeswitch<br>
</span><br>
<br>
<br>
This question sounds eerily familiar...<br>
<br>
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Jerry Richards
<jerry.richards@teotech.com> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hello All,<br>
<br>
Does anyone know what the capacity of a stand-alone Freeswitch (assuming a<br>
top-of-the-line server), in terms of how many users?<br>
<br>
<br>
You can have many hundreds of users, but there are a lot of factors: network
infrastructure, call volume, etc. <br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
Also, when that number is exceeded, how can Freeswitch server be distributed<br>
to accommodate a larger installation?<o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><br>
<br>
Yes there are strategies. You definitely want a professional to assist if this
is a serious production environment. There are members of the FS community who
do this sort of thing, or you could email consulting@freeswitch.org to get
assistance from the core FS developers.<br>
-MC<br>
<br>
<br>
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