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<FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>The problem here is how you tune for the most calls possible is different for different objectives... There is no 1 size fits all solutions<BR>
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<HR ALIGN=CENTER SIZE="3" WIDTH="95%"><B>From: </B>Mindaugas Kezys <mkezys@gmail.com><BR>
<B>Reply-To: </B>"freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" <freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org><BR>
<B>Date: </B>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:55:20 +0300<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#1F497D">I would like to comment on this statement:<BR>
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I see this very often in this mailing-list. Would it be a good idea to create wiki page how to fine tune Freeswitch to handle as many calls as possible?<BR>
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Maybe such page already exist? (I’m not able to find it). If not – I would like to help creating it. <BR>
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After few months when we will start developing our new product – I will come here and will cry for help (I will be one of these 9.9/10) to tune FS to handle as many calls as possible, because that will be my goal.<BR>
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Regards,<BR>
Mindaugas Kezys<BR>
<a href="http://www.kolmisoft.com">http://www.kolmisoft.com</a><BR>
VoIP Billing and Routing Solutions<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT FACE="Tahoma, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'><B>From:</B> freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [<a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]">mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]</a> <B>On Behalf Of </B>Anthony Minessale<BR>
<B>Sent:</B> 2009 m. rugpj?čio 27 d. 20:07<BR>
<B>To:</B> freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Scalabilty of Freeswitch<BR>
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I think there are 3 main problems.<BR>
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1) The core developers should not be blowing their own horn about performance results in any official capacity because it will appear skewed to skeptics.<BR>
2) The core developers are too busy to bother with gathering the stats.<BR>
3) 9.9/10 newcomers who try to do load testing get it wrong somewhere and we spend a month dealing with them on the list etc.<BR>
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It sort of like if someone offered FREE CARS, take one and drive away and do whatever you want with it.<BR>
People show up and say, "how fast can it go?" "how well does it handle on curves?" .. I don't know it's a FREE CAR, go drive it and you tell me.<BR>
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I think some people forget this is an open source project and it's up to the community to decide for themselves how well it works.<BR>
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I would love to find a way to save us all the time of dealing with people who try to load test first and try real calls later.<BR>
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The industry standard for calls is 50cps which is assuming a typical load of 25cps burst-able to 50 to cover a fault in a cluster.<BR>
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Most people doing 50cps all day long should be making so much money they can either afford nicer boxes or more expensive equipment if<BR>
they need to scale more.<BR>
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FS can handle this load easily and many people tune their box to do triple that if not even more but that is all subjective to their<BR>
hardware choices etc.<BR>
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sigh,<BR>
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Michael Giagnocavo <mgg@giagnocavo.net> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><FONT COLOR="#1F497D"><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Can’t we do what some vendors do? Pick the simplest config for a simple scenario, like statically bridging two channels, then publish those numbers? Or say, use one of the standard SIPP scenarios with no RTP? And so on. <BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'><B>From:</B> freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [<a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]">mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]</a> <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael Jerris<BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:44 AM<BR>
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<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Scalabilty of Freeswitch<BR>
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if you have the time and ability to create such a multi-dementional array of tjat data in some usable form that would be fine, it is a wiki after all. I however tend to think that there are too many variables to reliably provide any sort of real data and that the time required to do so would be quite a lot. <BR>
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Mike<BR>
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On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:37 AM, Mindaugas Kezys wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#1F497D"><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Maybe it would be a good idea to create wiki page just to put such kind of information in a table:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#1F497D"><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Computer specs | Other comments | Codecs used | With/Without Media | Max sim. calls reached | etc<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#1F497D"><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>That way interested persons could get a grasp what is really all about.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#1F497D"><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>This is very common question based on which many people measure switch capabilities, so in my opinion should be treated with that in mind (as marketing oportunity)<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#1F497D"><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Regards,<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#1F497D"><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Mindaugas Kezys<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#1F497D"><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>VoIP Billing and Routing Solutions<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="4"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'><B>From:</B> freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org [<a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]">mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org]</a> <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael Collins<BR>
<B>Sent:</B> 2009 m. rugpj?čio 26 d. 23:36<BR>
<B>To:</B> freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Freeswitch-dev] Scalabilty of Freeswitch<BR>
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This question sounds eerily familiar...<BR>
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Jerry Richards <jerry.richards@teotech.com> wrote:<BR>
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Hello All,<BR>
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Does anyone know what the capacity of a stand-alone Freeswitch (assuming a<BR>
top-of-the-line server), in terms of how many users?<BR>
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You can have many hundreds of users, but there are a lot of factors: network infrastructure, call volume, etc. <BR>
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Also, when that number is exceeded, how can Freeswitch server be distributed<BR>
to accommodate a larger installation?<BR>
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Yes there are strategies. You definitely want a professional to assist if this is a serious production environment. There are members of the FS community who do this sort of thing, or you could email consulting@freeswitch.org to get assistance from the core FS developers.<BR>
-MC<BR>
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