Some people like to donate code to open source.<br><br>Thanks again Jan for the ISDN code.&nbsp; We are still working on it and some day we should make it to SS7 but it will probably take a bit more work since we are already short on hands for people who want to work on OpenZAP abstraction layer.<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Ken Rice <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:krice@freeswitch.org">krice@freeswitch.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">




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<font size="4"><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">No SS7 Box is Mike Mueller and Sangoma, &nbsp;We is Shane Burrell and I with a box called APSS7 that does a stack of TCAP &nbsp;and ALC functions along with SIGTRAN and Traditional TDM links<div class="Ih2E3d">
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<hr align="center" size="3" width="95%"><b>From: </b>Jan Berger &lt;<a href="mailto:janvb@live.com" target="_blank">janvb@live.com</a>&gt;<br>
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</div><b>Date: </b>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:53:52 +0100<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<b>To: </b>&lt;<a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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<hr align="center" size="3" width="100%">Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:45:07 -0600<br>
From: <a href="mailto:krice@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">krice@freeswitch.org</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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</span></font><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">We did haha... Searched high and low... Ended up reverse engineering part of the spec while we tried to come up with documentation... <br>

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<hr align="center" size="3" width="95%"><b>From: </b>Jan Berger &lt;<a href="mailto:janvb@live.com" target="_blank">janvb@live.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<b>Date: </b>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:42:07 +0100<br>
<b>To: </b>&lt;<a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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</span></font><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Next time try to search if AT&amp;T have a free version of the doc first - you might get a suprice.<br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:36:02 -0600<br>
From: <a href="mailto:krice@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">krice@freeswitch.org</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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</span></font><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Must be nice ;) <br>
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Here in the states they want you to pay for documentation on cable pinouts and don't even think about getting documentation for something like TCAP LIDB without giving up your first born and an arm.<br>
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<b>From: </b>Jan Berger &lt;<a href="mailto:janvb@live.com" target="_blank">janvb@live.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<b>Date: </b>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:22:38 +0100<br>
<b>To: </b>&lt;<a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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</span></font><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I live in Europe - and ITU/ETSI are free :)<br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:37:48 -0600<br>
From: <a href="mailto:krice@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">krice@freeswitch.org</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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</span></font><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">That's the same thing we saw... &nbsp;Everyone wants SS7 but no one wants to help fund it... And to make matters worse just getting proper documentation for ANSI SS7 is not exactly a cheap endeavor. Unfortunately telecordia and crew still want to charge thousands of dollars for the docs when the ITU decided ages ago to make those available for free... Even then its still a substantial amount of effort to get something working (even if you have active links you can use to help understand whats going on)<br>

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<b>From: </b>Jan Berger &lt;<a href="mailto:janvb@live.com" target="_blank">janvb@live.com</a>&gt;<br>
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<b>Date: </b>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:30:15 +0100<br>
<b>To: </b>&lt;<a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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</span></font><font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">This is a little like the hen and the egg...<br>
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No one will support you starting to write a SS7 ++ stack, but once you get going and the first stacks turns up, so will business.<br>
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Jan<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:mike@jerris.com" target="_blank">mike@jerris.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org" target="_blank">freeswitch-dev@lists.freeswitch.org</a><br>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:06:11 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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I still see a compelling business case for a foundation supported free open source set of libs for the base protocols, commercially supported by multiple contributors who build higher level applications using the base protocols. &nbsp;In a situation like this, commercial sponsors can pool resources for certification. &nbsp;Obviously anyone using a modified version would not be using certified code but the sponsors who pay for certification would still get multiple benefits.<br>

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Mike<br>
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On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Ken Rice wrote:<br>
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</span></font></div></div></font><blockquote><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><font size="4"><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I don't see a non Commercial one getting certification and then getting widely used here in the states... That's the problem you have to spend tons of time to get them certified... Its not like SIP where they will pretty much take anything and everything unfortunately<br>

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K<br>
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<b>From: </b>Brian West &lt;<a href="mailto:brian@freeswitch.org" target="_blank">brian@freeswitch.org</a>&gt;<br>
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<b>Date: </b>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:59:18 -0600<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Freeswitch-dev] FreeSWITCH SS7 stack<br>
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We should have an open source one too thats MPL or BSD ... I don&#39;t agree with selling protocols like this commercially. &nbsp;Guess thats just the Open Source in me wanting that stuff to be free.<br>
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/b<br>
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On Jan 27, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Ken Rice wrote:<br>
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</span></font></font><blockquote><font size="4"><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">There are things available for this in the commercial space. &nbsp;One from CometSig.com and one from sangoma. &nbsp;Nothing at this time in the opensource arena. (OpenSS7 will not be integrated with freeswitch due to licensing issues)<br>

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Contact me off list if you are interested in either of the commercial versions I can assist you with these things.<br>
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Ken<br>
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