[Freeswitch-dev] Antw.: is there any info abount which git tag/ Freeswitch release is stable?

Anton VG anton.vazir at gmail.com
Sun May 8 16:09:06 MSD 2011


hm, If I'm not wrong, there was a number of packages in debian, which
was updated from svn
previous stable had ffmpeg or mplayer from svn

in current stable i see libeina-svn-03 and 05

so it seems it accepts

2011/5/8 Michal Bielicki <michal.bielicki at seventhsignal.de>:
> Debian dies Not accept packages without versions. Git releases are not
> accepted
>
> Gesendet mit meinem HTC
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> Von: "Anton VG" <anton.vazir at gmail.com>
> An: <freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org>
> Betreff: [Freeswitch-dev] is there any info abount which git tag/ Freeswitch
> release is stable?
> Datum: So., Mai. 8, 2011 10:38
>
>
> João,
> your point is clear, and for sure it is very impressive, what work can
> be done by that modest
> number of developers. Don't get me wrong, there was no intention to
> sound "demanding", just thoughts.
> I myself watching FS progress from the moment Anthony have announced it.
> FS do not have backing company as some other, this makes some things a
> little more difficult
> But I trust it would be in a great benefit for FS to gain bigger
> community, and little more organization would not bother...
> Though it requires men power, which seems is just not enough for the moment.
>
> BTW, somehow strange, FS is not included to Debian distro, not even in
> UNSTABLE, although, FS support a debian build out of GIT with no extra
> work.
> Just Debian is one of the most recognized distro for servers, and
> having FS included would add to it's popularity quite sufficiently.
> Is there no willing maintainer or some other reason?
>
> BR,
> Anton.
>
> 2011/5/8 João Mesquita <jmesquita at freeswitch.org>:
>> Anton, I consider myself a part of this community as well as an active
>> contributor. Whoever knows me personally or has spoken to me for more then
>> 5
>> minutes is able to tell the passion that I hold for OSS and, of course,
>> FreeSWITCH.
>> Maybe this passion is too blindly but I believe that there are some
>> importants points being overseen here by most of those who write these
>> types
>> of email I see pop up on the mailing list every now and again.
>> 1. FreeSWITCH's core is developed mainly by 3 or 4 guys. We are talking
>> about less then 5 people where one of them is the person who has made over
>> 60% of the code in there.
>> 2. FreeSWITCH does not generate direct profit for anyone who has been
>> actively contributing that I know of. We all add a twist to the product
>>  and
>> that is where our value added lies on.
>> 3. No one is working for no one, this is one of the things that makes it a
>> community instead of a company.
>> My point is that it can be a little offending when I see those comments
>> that
>> are almost demanding and that doesn't have a proposition to go with.
>> I don't want to make any enemies and don't intend to offend either, but
>> instead of making a short response to this critic, I would think that we
>> can
>> all benefit from more ppl helping on the project. Maybe the right question
>> could have been, who is the tester on the project and how can I help test
>> to
>> get a stable branch?
>>
>> I am really sorry if I seem aggressive, it is not the intention. I simply
>> took the opportunity of this email to write about my feelings towards
>> emails
>> like those and not yours exclusively.
>>
>> I hope my critics do not offend anyone. :-)
>> Regards,
>> João Mesquita
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Anthony Minessale
>> <anthony.minessale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> current HEAD is a candidate for a stable branch.
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Daniel Bryars
>>> <daniel.bryars at aeriandi.com> wrote:
>>> > I don't think it's impossible - just difficult. My view is based on my
>>> > experience where we "almost" continuously deploy our web sites to our
>>> > live
>>> > environment; we continuously deploy after every check in (waiting 15
>>> > minutes
>>> > for a quiescent period) to stage and then manually push to live weekly
>>> > (it
>>> > used to be ad hoc, now it's every week, I hope soon it will be every
>>> > day).
>>> > To do this we've needed key unit tests (not full coverage by any means)
>>> > and
>>> > automated regression testing.  And, most importantly, a change in
>>> > developer
>>> > mind set (we now know that as soon as we check in some code it's going
>>> > to
>>> > wind itself up on a live machine with live customers without any QA
>>> > team to
>>> > rely on).
>>> >
>>> > We're building a new solution with FS (on Windows) and ideally would
>>> > like to adopt the same strategy. Ideally I don't want a "stable
>>> > release" I
>>> > want to always pull the latest version and run that in production.
>>> >
>>> > Right now for our FS project we've got the build process deploying to
>>> > our stage environment (no live customers yet) using some Powershell
>>> > scripts
>>> > and Microsoft Web Deploy. We intend to build on this over the next 4 to
>>> > 6
>>> > weeks. The plan is to pull from GIT, apply our own regression tests and
>>> > if
>>> > they pass push out to live (automatically).
>>> >
>>> > Currently we have plans to test only the functionality which we
>>> > actually
>>> > use - but depending on how things go I'm up for increasing the coverage
>>> > and
>>> > providing the results of our tests publicly. Perhaps this will provide
>>> > a
>>> > useful guide to the current state of the build and help provide what
>>> > you're
>>> > asking for (but I can only do this on Windows.)
>>> >
>>> > I'll keep you posted with our progress, (and I'll also be at the next
>>> > ClueCon conference - if you're going then perhaps we can have a little
>>> > brainstorm then.)
>>> >
>>> > Daniel
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: freeswitch-dev-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org
>>> > [mailto:freeswitch-dev-bounces at lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Anton
>>> > VG
>>> > Sent: 07 May 2011 08:13
>>> > To: freeswitch-dev at lists.freeswitch.org
>>> > Subject: [Freeswitch-dev] is there any info abount which git tag/
>>> > Freeswitch release is stable?
>>> >
>>> > Guys, here is a little bit of critics,
>>> >
>>> > There is no info - what version of freeswitch should be used in
>>> > production.
>>> > the wiki pages
>>> >
>>> > http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Installation_Guide
>>> > http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Installation_Guide#Linux_and_Unix
>>> >
>>> > says that latest GIT is "very" stable, but in 5 pulls i did, 2 times I
>>> > immediately hit regressions:
>>> > first time - non working DNS resolver in mod_sofia second - broken ESL
>>> > outbound (as of this night)
>>> >
>>> > at the same time, it's mentioned that 1.0.6 is not the "latest stable"
>>> > anymore, but in files, there is only 1.0.6
>>> >
>>> > so it would be very helpful if there is some way to find out, what is
>>> > the latest GIT tag or release could be downloaded to be usable, it's
>>> > just
>>> > not possible while in development, to have GIT always stable. None can
>>> > do
>>> > it, so there really should be atleast "testing" tag/brunch, which is
>>> > known
>>> > working over serveral weeks (debian testing can be an example)
>>> >
>>> > Hope this piece of critics not insults anyone, FS is a great stuff,
>>> > Regards, Anton.
>>> >
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